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Wednesday, May 2, 2012

William Price Tynllwyn Summary and Family

The evidence points to the fact that Willam Price Tynllwyn was a man of some substance. How he came by his property is not known but it is likely that he inherited at least some of it. He calls himself a farmer in his will and presumably this was his chosen vocation. He was able to rent the largest farm in the Upper division of Myddfai parish. He was in a position to send his eldest son John to schooling and then to Oxford University. William of Mothvey his son who predeceased him was a farmer and although he died intestate he left a considerable estate which was proved by his widow.

William Price Tynllwyn lent money to his son in law Evan Morgan in the form of a mortgage. His son David Price Glasallt became a well known and respected member of the local community and although his son Morgan farmed in the remotest part of the parish he was a property owner and freeholder and left a will.

It is frustrating that so little can be discovered of William's origins. If, as Arber-Cooke suggests, he was related to Thomas Price, the Llandovery mercer whose children appear in the Myddfai Parish Records as suddenly and around the same period as Willam's children, then there might be some possibility of discovering more at some point - although to date I have drawn a blank. Details of the said Thomas Price will be provided in a later post.

The only other bit of information to add is from oral sources. The late David Rees Powell of Pwllycalch Myddfai wrote in the foreword of a book of poetry the following -

"My mother was one of six children of David and Mary Price Gorllwynfach, they were from the family of Price Tynewydd who were descended before that from Glasallt and Llwynifanfeddyg.' He goes on to say that his mother always told them that her roots lay with the drover's from Shrewsbury who had settled in the area". (Hanner Canrif o'r
Digri a'r Difri o fro Meddygon Myddfai' David Rees Powell 2000)

If this oral tradition is true then it explains why there is so little information about Wiliam Price's origins in the Llandovery / Myddfai area and maybe even why he and Thomas Price 'suddenly appear' in the Myddfai area in the mid 18th century.

So it remains to provide the details that are available for the immediate family each member of which will have a later post devoted to them.

The Family of William Price Tynllwyn Gent.


William PRICE Tynllwyn born ca 1720?. He made his will 1 July 1799, died later that month and was buried at Myddfai Parish Church on 24 July 1799
  1. He married his first wife Margaret ? ca 1745. She died 1777 and was buried 17 Apr 1777 at Myddfai PC.
  2. He married Magdalen REES (? - 1804) on 25 Nov 1779 at Myddfai PC Magdalen was buried. 16 Jan 1804 Myddfai PC Children by his first marriage -

Rev. John  PRICE B.A. (1749 - 1819) (bp. 12 Nov 1749 Myddfai PC died  24 Nov 1819) married
  1. Elizabeth ?? (ca. 1755 - 1795) (bd. 9 Dec 1795 (aged 40) Myddfai PC). Marriage date and place unknown.
  2. Frances JOSEPH (m. 25 Sep 1804 at Llanwrtyd)


Jane PRICE (1750 - ?) bp. 24 Nov 1750 Myddfai PC married Rees JOHN of Llanthoysant (Llanddeusant)


Morgan PRICE (1753 - 1805) bp. 29 Apr 1753 Myddfai PC, bd. 1 Mar 1805 Myddfai PC  married Gwenllian DAVIES (ca 1749 - 1844) bd. Saron, Cwmwysg (MI 1). Married at Llywel PC 8 Nov 1777. Morgan farmed Nantygweision and noted as a freeholder and gent. in Myddfai PR
David PRICE (1754 - 1837) bp. 26 Oct 1755 MPC bd. 29 Nov 1837 Myddfai PC married Mary ?? (ca. 1757 - 1833) married ca 1780. Farmed Glasallt Fawr and probably Llwynifanfeddyg and noted as a freeholder in Myddfai PR.
William PRICE (1758 - 1797) bp. 29 Jan 1758 Myddfai PC bd. 27 May 1797 Myddfai PC Noted as a farmer and freeholder in Myddfai PR but not known where he farmed. William predeceased his father, dying intestate in 1797. William married Elizabeth WILLIAM (1758 - ??) (possibly d/o Wm. Richard and Gwenllian bp. 18 Jun 1758 Myddfai PC). Married at Myddfai PC 12 Sep 1783.

Elizabeth PRICE (1761 - 1802) bp. 15 Mar 1761 Myddfai PC bd. 21 May 1802 married Evan MORGAN (? - 1800). Married 10 Jun 1783 at Myddfai PC
And now we must follow the direct line through Morgan Price Nantygweision leaving the other Price lines for a future blog.


Note on MI's (Memorial Inscriptions) - Where numbers are given they reference the inscription in the relevant church or chapel in the excellent series of surveys produced by Mr. Gareth Jones of Brewood, Staffordshire to whom I am indebted for much help in my research. He has produced these detailed surveys for the churches and chapels of Myddfai, Llywel, and Devynock among others.

Note on Parish Records. These exist in two forms, A register of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials for each Parish Church and an annual summary known as the Bishop's Transcripts which were 'returns' from each parish transcribed from the Parsh Register. There are gaps in the records and they are often illegible. Some chapels (Cefnarthen is a good example) also kept records of baptisms etc. although again these can be quite patchy and discontinuous. Copies of parish records on film can be seen at County Record offices and the BT's are available at The National Library of Wales and at various LDS Family History Centres.



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