Pantyffordd

Pantyffordd
Pantyffordd Farm nestled beneath Waundwr in the shadow of the Bannau Caerfyrddin (Carmarthenshire Fans)

Thursday, July 12, 2012

David Price Pantyffordd


The Family of David Price Pantyffordd.


David Price Pantyffordd. This was taken on the occasion of his daughter Gwenllian's wedding in 1915 age 67. He died the following year. 

 

David Price was born in 1848 at Coydca* (sic) Cilycwm presumably the home of his mother Mary Price (nee Williams). He lived at home with his mother Mary at Trichwmwl following his father Morgan's death at the young age of 44 in 1863 (David would have been 15 at the time). He continued to live there after his mother's second marriage to Thomas Prosser in 1870 (see 1871 census below).

No record has been found of his first marriage which must have occurred between the censuses of 1871 and 1881 because he is registered as single in 1871 but on his marriage to Jane Prosser in 1880 he is registered as a widower. There was a child from the first marriage because in 1881 there is a David Price living with his mother Mary (now Prosser, widow) at Trichwmwl who is registered as David Price, grandson aged either 7 or 9 (difficult to read). Based on other evidence David was born in 1873/4 which makes the elder David’s first marriage in the period 1871-1873.  In 1891 young David was a farm servant at Penwingon Fawr, Trecastle aged 18 (which confirms a date of birth of around 1873). For whatever reason he grew up and married completely independently of his natural father.

David Price married his second wife Jane Prosser in 1880. David (farmer) and Jane (dressmaker) were married 4 Dec 1880 at Tabernacle Chapel, Llandovery . The witnesses were William Price (grooms' brother) and Margaret Prosser (bride's sister).It seems likely that David and Jane met as a result of Thomas Prosser (Janes's grandfather) marrying David's widowed mother Mary. According to the 1881 census David and Jane were at Glynmeirch, Cwmdwr Road, Llywel next door to Jane's widowed mother Anne Prosser and Jane's two brothers Thomas and Evan Prosser.

Following the traditional naming pattern (paternal grandparents followed by maternal), David and Jane's daughter Mary was born ca. 1882 followed by Morgan ca. 1885 (Morgan being the Christian name of both grandfathers). Both Mary and Morgan were born in Myddfai parish but where is not known at present. The family then lived for a while at Pentrebach near Halfway in the Cwmdwr valley between Trecastle and Llandovery, which falls in Llanfairarybryn parish where my grandmother Anne was born 17 Feb 1887 followed by Margaret Jane in 1889. It's likely that David's mother Mary was living with them at this time because she was living at Pentrebach alone in 1891.

The family must have moved to Pantyffordd, Senny ca. 1890 (they are there in the 1891 census) where David Price became farm bailiff (i.e. he farmed Pantyffordd as though it was his own, but on behalf of the owners). Here at Pantyffordd the rest of the family was born, Gwenllian (known as Wena) ca. 1893, Ellen ca. 1895 and Evan Tom ca. 1897. A further child Elizabeth (Lizzie on MI) died as a baby in 1899.


 
The Price family at Pantyffordd, Senny
The very faded photograph above is from the collection of the late Jane Morgan of Pontfaen (who was a daughter of Ellen Price) and was kindly loaned to me by Janet Watkins, her niece. Calculating the ages assuming that the baby in David Price's arms is Ellen then the date of the photograph is 1895. Thus left to right is Morgan (10), Mary (13), Jane Price mother (37) holding Gwen (2), David Price (47) holding Ellen, Margaret Jane (6), Anne (8)

From some further information that Jane printed by on the back of  a copy of the photograph of David Price (see above), Jane lived at Ty Isaf Senny Village  (see photographs) and died at Tymawr just opposite. My mother recalled her living at Tymawr in 1924.

Jane Price (nee Prosser) at Ty Isaf Senny ca. 1920


David Price died at Pantyffordd on 23 Nov 1916 aged 68 and was buried at Brychgoed Chapel, Senny. His youngest son, Evan Tom Price who would have been just 19 when his father died and not long out of the army, took over Pantyffordd and eventually bought the farm. His descendants continue to farm there.

Jane Price died 12 February 1925 and was buried with David at Brychgoed. Their MI (10.4) reads (tr. from the Welsh) "In loving memory of David Price, Pantyffordd, Senny, who died 23 Nov. 1916 aged 68 . Also of Jane his wife who died 12 February 1925 aged 68. Also Lizzie their daughter who died 25th April 1899 in her infancy."

The Family

David PRICE, Pantyffordd, Senny (1848- 1916) b. 25 Feb 1848 at Coydca (sic) Cilycwm d. 23 Nov 1916 aged 68 bd. Brychgoed Chapel. [MI 10.5]

= 1) Unknown

Child:  David PRICE b. 1873
= 2) Jane Prosser (1857 - 1925)  Died 12 Feb 1925 aged 68 [MI 10.5 Brychgoed Chapel]

Children:

Mary PRICE, Shepherds House Cray.  (ca. 1882 - 1963).  Died 20 Jan 1963 aged 81 buried at Brychgoed Chapel [MI 9.6] = William DAVIES of Rushock near Kington, Herefordshire (worked for Swansea Corporation at the Cray Reservoir) (1866 - 1939) died 3 Feb 1939 aged 73 [MI 9.6] They were married in Oct 1903 (Breconshire)

Morgan PRICE, Felin Senni (The Mill Senny) (ca. 1885 -1957) Died 13 Mar 1957 (aged 72) and buried at Brychgoed Chapel [MI 10.8] = **Mary Ann Gardner (1894 - 1959) buried Brychgoed [MI 10.8]. Married April 1909 at Merthyr Tydfil.

Anne PRICE, Brynhyfryd, Cray (1887 - 1969), b. 22  Feb 1887 died 24 Mar 1969 aged 82 = David JONES, of Tyleglas, Senny (1883 - 1951) died 10 May 1951 aged 68. [MI 9.8 Brychgoed Chapel]. See spearate blog post with further information about my grandmother's family.

Margaret Jane PRICE Maeseglwys and Pwllcoediog  Callwen Glyntawe (1889 - 1950), died 11 Mar 1950 (aged 61) bd. at Callwen P.Ch = David PRICE (1873 - 1951) died 25 Jan 1951 bd. at Callwen P.Ch. (Callwen is at the head of the Swansea Valley).

Gwenllian PRICE (Gwen a.k.a. Wena), Clwydwaundwr Cray (1893 - 1930) died 17 Apr 1930 (aged 37) MI 10.7 Brychgoed Chapel = **Evan Owen GARDNER married at Merthyr Sep. 1915.

Eleanor PRICE (Ellen) (1895-1973) b. 22 Jan 1895 d. 28 Jul 1973 (aged 78) b. The Croft Llandovery = Morgan DAVIES of Cwmcoedoerion (1894 - 1978) d. 31 May 1978 (aged 84) b. The Croft Llandovery. Married 1 Jun 1916 at Brychgoed Chapel and lived at Dantwyn, Halfway and later at Stone Street, Llandovery.

Evan Tom PRICE, Pantyfordd, Senny (1897 -1955) d. 9 May 1965 (aged 68) (MI 9.10 Brychgoed Chapel) = Eleanor Jane MORGAN (1898 - 1973) d. 15 Apr 1973 (aged 75) (MI9.10 Brychgoed). Evan Tom fought in the First World War and succeeded his father at Pantyffordd, later purchasing the farm.

Lizzie PRICE (1899) died in infancy 25 Apr 1899 buried at Brychgoed with her parents

Some Relevant Census Data

1861 Halfway Inn, Halfway, Myddfai Parish

Morgan Prosser, head, 36, blacksmith and publican, CMN Myddfai
Anne Prosser, wife, 37, CMN Llandingat
Anne Prosser, daughter, 10, CMN Llanfairarybryn
Thomas Prosser, 8, CMN Llanfairarybryn
Gwen Prosser, 5, CMN Myddfai
Jane Prosser, 3, CMN Myddfai
Margaret Prosser, 1, CMN Myddfai


1861, Cwmdwr Mill, Llywel Parish

Jane Prosser, servant, 12, domestic servant, CMN Myddfai

1871 Trichwmwl, Myddfai

Thomas Prosser, head, m, 71, Farmer 172 acres, CMN Mothvey
Mary Prosser, wife, m, 47, CMN Cayo
David Price, stepson, u, 23, CMN Cayo
William Price, stepson, u, 22, CMN Myddfai

1881 Trichwmwl, Myddfai

Mary Prosser h, widow, 45,  Farmer of 30 acres, CMN Cayo
Mary Price, granddaughter, 3, CMN Myddfai
David Price, grandson, 9, CMN Myddfai (s/o David Price)

(Mary was the daughter of William Price and Gwen who lived in Bwlchbrane nearby and had an 11month old daughter Ellen in 1881)


1881 Cwmdwr Rd., Glynmeirch, Llywel

David Price, head, 32, General Labourer, CMN Myddfai
Jane Price, wife, 22, CMN Myddfai

(Note: By this time Jane's father Morgan had died and his widow Anne (57) was living next door to David and Jane with son Thomas (26) and son Evan (19))

1891 Pantyffordd, Senny, Breconshire

David Price, head, m, 43, agricultural labourer, CMN Caio
Jane Price, wife, m, 30, BRE Llywel
Mary, daughter, 9, scholar, CMN Myddfai
Morgan, son, 6, scholar, CMN Myddfai
Anne, daughter, 4, CMN Llanfairarybryn
Margaret Jane, 2, CMN Llanfairarybryn
 

1901, Pantyffordd, Senny, Breconshire

David Price, head, m, 53, farm bailiff, CMN Myddfai
Jane Price, wife,  m, 42, CMN Myddfai
Maggie Jane Price, daughter, 12, CMN Myddfai
Gwen Price, daughter, 8, BRE Senny
Ellen Price, daughter, 6, BRE Senny
Evan Tom, son, 4, BRE Senny

My grandmother, Anne Price had left home and was in service in 1901 and she appears in the census at Yscoedreddfin, a farm in the Cwmdwr valley between Llywel and Halfway, as Annie Price.

1911, Pantyffordd, Senny, Breconshire
David Price, 62, Caio, CMN
Jane Price, 51, Myddfai CMN
Gwen Price, 18, Senny, BRECS

In 1911 my grandmother was still single and in service at Tylegarw, Senny. Morgan Price was married in 1910 and in 1911 he and Mary Ann his wife were living at Clwydwaundwr, Cray (opposite the Brychgoed Chapel). Mary was married to William Davies in 1903 and they were living at Shepherds House near Cray Reservoir which had been built between 1889 and 1906 and where her husband William worked. Ellen was 16 and working at Pentwyn, Cray. Maggie Jane was 22, a dressmaker living at Pwllcoediog Farm, Callwen.
*Mary often registered her birthplace as Caio and David her son likewise.
** Evan and Mary Gardner were brother and sister.